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September 27th, 2014, 12:41 am

GreenKrog

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See what I mean about Annie losing focus on what it means to be a person and focusing on what it means to be a sex? Humanism, not sexism. Learn it! Just because FLINT is better at math, and HAPPENS to be a man, doesn't mean ALL MEN ARE BETTER AT MATH. You seriously JUST gave a speech about it!

Also, Flint looks at her chest. That's so cute. Swing for the fences, Flint!

Why is Annie doing poor at math? Mostly because I did in high school. I went from 0 studying and 100% test scores to mild studying and poor test scores. IB math kicked my ass. But I also didn't start hormones or accept that I could be anything other than a very angry, overweight MAN until well into college. My point is Annie - you suck at math because you are taking university level math, not because you are a boy or a girl.
(I will save you time - Mal sucks at math. Probably because he is a girl).

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September 18th, 2015, 2:12 am

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competition vs creativity

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It's a documented fact that competition in creativity leads to less-creative output. This /may/ be part of any problem - and may also lead to solutions.

Just saying! :)

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September 18th, 2015, 10:12 am

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Just to be clear, when you say humanism, you mean the ideology focused on human agency of which secularism is a major component, right?

Because I've heard a lot of people claim to be humanists as an alternative to feminism who didn't know what the word meant.

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September 18th, 2015, 11:06 am

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@Anon: That is a fair question to ask, and I am glad someone did.

The concept of humanism, to me, is that of egalitarian values; the belief that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities. I use the term humanist instead of egalitarianist because it carries with it the implied secular angle. Likewise, egalitarianism is a basis of belief, but humanism is how to live and act. To simply believe that people are born equal and should have equal rights, but then not apply that through rational thought and action, tends to remove the function of the philosophy.

As an example;
Two parents are in a custody battle;
Mens rights say the child must not grow up without a father
Womens rights say the child must not grow up without a mother
Humanist says the child should grow up in the environment that would grant them the best opportunities for their future.

Likewise, it has been shown time and again that removal of the 'person' from a selection process and only presenting the objective realities produces vastly different results. As an example, look at the study of blind auditions in orchestral selection;
http://www.theguardian.com/women-in-leadership/2013/oct/14/blind-auditions-orchestras-ge nder-bias

In summary, it says that the people who hired for orchestras tended to hire more men, not because the men play better, but because they were men. So introducing a curtain so that the candidates could only be judged on musical talent and on absolutely nothing else eliminated the bias. That isn't a feminist gain, it is a human gain.

Additionally, humanist relates to race as much as it does gender/sex. While it has not yet been experimented enough to draw conclusions, primary data indicates that removing the 'person' from a trial also removes bias on sex and race. That for the same charges, a white girl will be far less punished than a black man. So if you have a stand-in for the prosecuted, the only thing the judge and jury can do is base their decision off of the evidence presented and no other factors.
This would be an imperfect solution, of course, since facial movements tend to give away indications of remorse and lack thereof. But it is still a humanist approach to dealing with institutionalized racism.

I hope this helps to clarify why I say I am humanist.

Edit: I am more than happy to admit I am incorrect in the way that I am using the terms herein if I hear compelling information or definition.

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September 20th, 2015, 11:42 pm

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@GreenKrog: Still, atheism, or at the very least a belief that God is ultimately not that important in our lives, is a core component of humanism. The whole point of the ideology is that we should admire the achievements of humanity rather than attribute them to some divine being.

I think I recall you stating that you are an atheist, so I absolutely do believe you are a humanist in the true sense of the word. That said, I just wasn't sure that's what you thought you meant when you say you're a humanist.

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September 21st, 2015, 12:19 am

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@Anon: I lean more towards antitheist these days. But yes, very strongly atheist at the very least. Humans are what cause pain, and humans are what cause joy.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

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