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October 25th, 2014, 2:33 am

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Song: Unsun - Clinic for Dolls.
Swedish goth metal, pretty cool.

Um.. Annie kissed Flint. But she was drunk, so, that is ok? Right? Something like that? Anyone? On the same day she holds hands with Bree? But she is drunk so it is ok? Right? And then she goes and starts molesting the blond girl?

And pretty sure that Wendy now made the connection between the Maiden and Annie. So thats cool..

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October 9th, 2015, 3:46 am

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@GreenKrog: But she is drunk so it is ok? Uh no, it is not ok... but you are sarcastic so it is ok.

I have personally never understood the appeal of getting drunk. Maybe it's because I don't have the same reaction to drunkenness most people do. I don't lose inhibitions or anything like that, to me it just feels like I'm tired and clumsy, and I just want to go to sleep. So yeah, not exactly great for partying.

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October 9th, 2015, 11:52 am

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@Yan Mouson: Your response isn't entirely foreign. I know a few folks who drink to help them fall asleep. Plus it is a trope on TV shows that people drink to sleep instead of drink to party. Sorry, but you are probably in the norm here. Ha! You are normal! :)

As for the kissing people while drunk, I meant it sarcastically, but I am not entirely sure I mean it sarcastically any more. She isn't in a monogamous relationship. She has history with Flint (with some clear sexual attraction present). Don't get me wrong, I am not polygamous, but I support people being able to discover themselves sexually and emotionally. She may be doing so fueled by alcohol... so? Would we be condemning her if she was being fueled by adrenaline from a strong exercise? It is the reason why you take a date to a scary movie.

As you can see, I am slightly conflicted on how I feel about the whole thing. I support her exploring herself, but I wish she would do it in a safer way. I am not opposed to her use of alcohol, but I am opposed to her overuse and possible dependence on it.

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October 9th, 2015, 12:43 pm

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@GreenKrog: I am of course not implying that anything Annie is doing here is morally wrong in any way. I personally do not believe that something can be considered wrong if it can only hurt the person doing it, and one does not lose my respect for screwing themselves over so long as they don't drag anyone down with them. The issue here is not one of morality.

I do, however, believe that it is always better to make decisions with a clear head and your full mental abilities. Whether it's because of a mind altering substance like drugs or alcohol or because you're worked up, whether due to adrenaline as you suggested or because you're angry or sad, I strongly believe it is better to cool down before making any decisions that could have major consequences on your life.

Simply put, while I do not condemn Annie's actions because they affect no one but her, I do believe she should maybe act differently for her own sake.

By the way, is it just me or is the coloring a little wonky here? Knowing that you tend to use color to represent emotion, I'm wondering if you intentionally messed with the art to represent Annie's drunken state. If so, props. Sure, there are other comics out there that look better than this one, but I've yet to see any comic, amateur or professional, make use of art as a conduit for emotion the way you do. The way you can inspire certain feelings simply through the way you draw a scene is the one thing that has consistently impressed me since the beginning of this comic.

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October 9th, 2015, 1:27 pm

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@Yan Mouson: It might be morally wrong in that if Bree finds out that Annie is a drunken slut (I mean that in a description way, not a judging way), it may be difficult to continue to build trust on whatever relationship aspirations they may have. Bree is already having a hard time with girl-on-girl thoughts, so throwing promiscuity into it could make it that much harder. It isn't entirely victimless. Plus, even though Flint may be getting something positive out of it, if he really does have feelings for Annie and not just physical attraction, this is really hurtful to him.
What I'm saying is, the blond is the only one that is morally good. Provided having a random drunk girl feeling you up at a party is consentual.

For making decisions, there are a number of thoughts on how the process works. Have you read 'Blink' by Malcom Gladwell? It goes into depth about decision making. I bring it up because I think it is relevant that making choices while inebriated are usually the choices you WANT to make the rest of the time, but are inhibited from doing so. You are still making the same decision, just quicker and with more feeling. I am not saying that you are wrong to say cooling off/sobering up is the proper way to handle it. I am saying that sometimes the same decision would be made regardless.

What should be more compelling is the question about mental disorders and decision making. For example, I am bipolar as fuck. When I am depressed, my decision making is irrational and negative, and should not be trusted. When I am manic, I make decisions faster and with less regard to consequence. I don't have a state of normality with which to base any sort of decisions off of or represent proper thoughts. The best I have to normal is when I am heavily drugged - but we don't actually know where that puts me on the scale of normality.
It is a complicated situation. I'm not trying to make a point, just pointing out that things are complicated.

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Any time Annie gets intoxicated things get all wavy. I started doing it in June 2013 on page 240 - After The Set, when that dude put ex in Tony's drink. Easiest way to communicate that perception is being warped is to warp everything. I can't draw action very well at all, so it only makes sense to have some other visual indicator of things.

Thank you for the compliment on use of color. Funny thing is, it started out of laziness and my colourblindness. Then I realized as I was going along that adding in colour to Tony's colourless world would demonstrate how the soul is waking up. That, and my ex girlfriend started telling me what colours things should be so I made that spreadsheet.

I would still very much like to see how a better artist would handle the material. While I have an acceptable 'style', it is more like really advanced stick figures. Could you imagine if a manga artist worked on this?

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October 9th, 2015, 5:23 pm

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@GreenKrog: Now of course we're getting into the murky territory of what exactly the choice one would make really is. Because of course the decision you make while drunk is the one you WANT to make, but it isn't necessarily the decision you SHOULD make, and being sober and calm makes it easier to determine whether the decisions you want to make are good or bad. I believe that's necessary to function properly, because let's be honest: if we all acted the way we want to while ignoring our inhibitions or reason 100% of the time, we would all at some point murder someone.

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It's actually a fairly unique style. I mean, I'm sure you're not the only one to use color to represent emotions, but I don't recall any specific examples of it being done as well as it is here. Most artists are more concerned with making their drawings appear realistic or consistent, and so integrating emotions into the image becomes less important than representing events as accurately as possible.

Ironically, your lack of drawing experience may be the reason you do this so well. Since your style is very minimalist, with almost no backgrounds and mostly static characters, the few elements that do stand out like color and facial expressions seem to take that much more space, which acts as an amplifier for emotion.

The part of the story before Annie starts transition in particular, with its use of black and white with color occasionally seeping through, gives off an almost claustrophobic, dreamlike vibe that really sells her life as a literal nightmare. I can confidently say that I have never seen someone pull that off without even trying before I read your comic.

Honestly, you don't need a better artist. Comics don't need to be superdetailed to look good. If you took some drawing lessons, just enough to learn how to clean up some of the rough edges and make the characters stand apart better, and combined that with your natural affinity for filling up the empty spaces with raw emotion, you could arrive at an excellent, unique look for your comic.

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October 9th, 2015, 11:38 am

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In No. 1134, Stew Two, in Panels 1 & 2, Cindi and Wendy mention that they are all going to wear their cheerleader outfits to the party, but you don't get to see the entire outfit until now, in Panel 1 !

BTW---Apparently, Annie can sing as the Bloody Maiden wither she is sober, dressed Gothic/Lolita, extremely depressed, bleeding like roadkill, or shockingly drunk !

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October 9th, 2015, 11:58 am

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@CuteDress&TwinPonytails: You have technically seen the whole uniform before when the cheerleaders do high kicks at practice. The entire thing is a simple affair, really. And shading skirts is really hard because of the pleats. And I suck at drawing legs. Yeah.

The Maiden is a transcendent form of expression that doesn't rely on dress, physical function, or mental acuity. The beauty of music is that it is emotion being channeled into sound. The only time Annie can't really sing is when she is happy - what does that mean?

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October 9th, 2015, 12:45 pm

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@GreenKrog: I think it means that Annie is incapable of channeling her happiness and capitalizing on it. She can hold on to sadness and anger for weeks at a time, yet her happiness always slips away, because she simply doesn't know how to be happy.

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October 9th, 2015, 3:11 pm

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Did she just get so drunk...

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She ran a bunch of mascara through her hair? -_0

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October 9th, 2015, 4:00 pm

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@vinter<3: That is a pretty bow, thank you very much! It is just hard to see the colour definition because black on black is already hard to see, and then throw in the drunk squooshyness and it kinda looks like a blob.

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