Rallied

posted October 23rd, 2015, 2:01 am


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November 15th, 2014, 6:19 am

GreenKrog

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The line in frame 5 about normal people was kind of sort of borrowed liberally from South Park :)

Perhaps the girl being accused of molesting drunken cheerleaders shouldn't be throwing around accusations against others, hmm? Lookit her shrink in front of Cindi comin' out of nowhere!
Then again, why SHOULDN'T she? As they say in science, just because you are wrong about one thing, it does not follow that you are wrong about all things. I've been wrong about millions of things, but I've been right about many others. So should I be discounted for it? Then why discount Zora?

Ok, I know, bad example given the situation. If it was like, anything else, it would be a pretty valid statement.
...then again, her point is that Annie has a penis and that it is a trust issue to let her in there. To which she is right, Annie does in fact currently have an outtie instead of an innie.

Is it a trust issue? How could it be? Just because I could crash my motorcycle into a pedestrian doesn't mean I ever will. If I did it once, am I obligated to tell everyone I ever meet that I did so?
Just because a person has a preconceived notion of you, this does not obligate you to have to dispel it. "That black guy is black so he probably commits a lot of crime". Said black guy has led a perfectly law abiding life and does so until he dies. Why exactly should said black guy have any reason to go over and prove his history to this total stranger?

I'm not sure exactly where I am going with this but I think it was rather pointant. In my head. Whatever, I don't have to prove myself to you. *drops pen and walks off stage*

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October 23rd, 2015, 3:21 am

Nick (Guest)

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What is Cindi's deal? She goes from flaming just as hard as Zora a few pages ago to... standing up to the principle and Zora on Annie's behalf now.
I'm assuming Erica is a sorceress or somesuch, because only high-level enchantments can change someone's opinions that quickly.

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October 23rd, 2015, 10:24 am

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@Nick: All will be revealed over this weekend. And then at longer length over the next few weeks.
I couldn't remember why I suddenly made Cindi an ally either. Turns out I didn't!

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October 23rd, 2015, 11:26 am

Erin (Guest)

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Zora, you're trying to whip up hatred with the word 'homonculus'. That's never going to end up well for you.

Honestly, Zora seems like she has some issues with transsexuals, specifically, from something in her past. This seems like more than blind hatred of someone she doesn't understand or has never encountered before (or that she thinks she has encountered before).

Also, why do people give people who have committed sexual assaults a second chance. Why. (I mean I know why but it still frustrates me, because it's one of the few things where I have never seen someone's trust be validated after it gets broken)

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October 23rd, 2015, 2:34 pm

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@Erin: ..she just uses it because I like the word. :) Technically, Cindi should use it because she is Jewish, but Zora got to it first. And I like the thought of a country accent trying to mangle through that word.

I haven't figured out what Zoras deal is with trans chicks yet. It might be related to this 'Dallas' thing that Bree was talking about. Most likely though, I get the feeling that Zora is a bit of a TERF (trans exclusive radical feminist) so she probably just hates anyone who isn't a 100% pure blood woman with perfect chromosomes and the exact amount of eggs and whatever other stupid qualifying criteria they come up with.

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For the sexual assault thing, I would question how much 'assault' really happened. When Annie got drunk last weekend and kissed Flint, it was without express permission. When she got drunk and probably made out with that blond girl, it was of doubtful consent. For Zora and Cindi, they were both drunk at a party. How much was implied consent and how much was Zora, erm, 'face raping' Cindi with that kiss?
Keep in mind, the author, who is me, considers a stolen kiss to be in a vastly different league than any other offense. Clearly there is an escalating scale of what should and shouldn't be forgiven or is forgivable. That is why there are laws about pedobears needing to declare that they are pedobears when they move into a neighbourhood, right?

Ignoring all of this, right now, this is Zora's word against Cindi's. Don't get me in any way misconstrued, I am not a rape apologist. But I have MASSIVE problems with unsubstantiated rape accusations and how they destroy lives. Look at Stubenville. It was absolutely unacceptable what happened to the Duke Lacross team? Those men will never get their lives back, ever. Cindi is saying that Zora molested her - but then again, Cindi has been a little prone to fly off the handle at sexual things. Do we know who actually hit on who? Do we know anything other than what Cindi is saying? What the popular girl is saying vs what the FAE is saying?

I may be a little prickly on this because I had a similar incident in high school. I was a white overweight skinhead loner male. I was hanging out on a playground at a nearby school (adjoining) during lunch so I could be away from other humans. Some girls came from the school and started harassing me. I really just wanted to be left alone, but they kept surrounding me and shouting. I put up my arm to defend myself from the spitting (they thought I was someone else) but they decided to burn me with a cigarette instead of letting me go. The pain made my flex my arm, which made me hit one of the girls, fairly lightly, in the head. Later that day, and for A WEEK AFTER THAT, I was physically assaulted by a group of guys older than me at the bike racks because I 'hit women'.
The funny thing is, those guys who punched me in the head and slashed my tires for a week, as SOON as they saw me, they said 'this isn't the guy'. They KNEW I wasn't the one the girls were angry at, but because I reflexively defended myself I was assaulted.

So maybe, just maybe, simple accusations aren't sufficient enough to condemn a person entirely. Should we be assuming that Zora actually did what Cindi says she did?

Sorry, I know, a bit ranty. Didn't mean it to come out accusatory or anything, I'm just stressed at work and spend a lot of time in this comic working on sexual assault stuff so it it is a bit of a thing with me.

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October 23rd, 2015, 4:30 pm

Yan Mouson

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@GreenKrog: Well, the one flashback panel we have of the incident seems to indicate Cindi might have initiated the kiss, so... If only everyone in the comic could see the flashbacks instead of them only happening in one character's head.

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