Dominance

posted October 25th, 2015, 2:01 am


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November 24th, 2014, 7:47 pm

GreenKrog

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Ok, so, yeah, this will probably make some people get into another debate about responsibility of a girl to show restraint while drunk, how she should be allowed to express her sexuality whenever without repercussion, etc.
But then again, this has nothing to do with sex, does it. It has to do with control.

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October 25th, 2015, 4:55 am

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I never have understood that debate, as it seems pretty cut and dry.
Yes, she should have the right to express herself however she wants. But, she should also be aware that many people can't be yget more wasted than she can handle. It was a bad decision on her part, but a decision she was free to make, like taking up cigarettes.
And that's more of a general concept than one specifically about Annie.
It truly sucks that we live in a world where people can't just be themselves without fear for their safety.

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October 25th, 2015, 11:24 am

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@Nick: The 'debate' comes from modern feminism. Second wave feminists fought long and hard to earn the right to say "We don't need an escort on dates. If we go and get raped, it is worth the freedom of being our own people. We accept that risk and would rather it than live in prison".
New wave feminists want all the freedom and none of the responsibility. This is why I despise feminism these days. They no longer want to earn anything, just make others feel like they haven't earned anything.

It does suck that we live in a world where people can't walk nekkid down the streets without fear of rape. Oh wait. In the states, rape is at 27.8/100,000 people. In Canada is it 1. Maybe it is a problem with culture after all.

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October 26th, 2015, 12:15 am

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@GreenKrog: What I find ridiculous about the new wave feminist point of view on this issue is that it's based on an entirely flawed premise. The idea that rape can be completely eliminated only works if all rape is caused by sexism, which it isn't.

Much of the rape that happens is more akin to theft. It's a man who wants sex and lacks the moral compass to not take it without permission. So long as men want sex and bad people exist, meaning until the end of the human race, there will be rape.

Knowing that, rapists become one of those regular dangers of life that one has to be aware of, much like cars or angry bears. Don't walk into traffic while staring at your phone, don't get between the angry bear and its babies, and keep an eye on your drink at parties.

The blame still falls on the rapist, but if a girl fails to take even the most basic precautions to protect herself, and especially if she does so on purpose to prove a stupid point, then excuse me if I don't feel particularly bad for her.

Obviously though, none of this is relevant to this particular situation since we're long past the party and Annie is at school and not drunk. This isn't a guy picking a random girl, this is a guy targeting her specifically. There's not much she could have done to avoid what's going on right now, short of hiring a full time bodyguard.

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October 26th, 2015, 12:56 am

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@Yan Mouson: I wanted to come straight to the comment and say 'this is why I like my readers' and just end the thought.

But I will point out that men being raped is much more prevalent than what the media would like to report on. And that the definition of rape in most countries still does not include the unwilling engulfment of a penis using mouth, vagina, or anus. It only says penetration is rape, and not the other way around. So criminally, men cannot be raped.
Call me a mens right activist, I'm cool with that. But I have some serious misgivings about placing the rape stats only on men raping women, especially when rape is huge in the lesbian community. Men get convicted of it the most, because the system is set up that way.

I know, I am a giant hypocrite because so far I have only framed Annie's encounters as male on female rape. Then again, she is the main character here, so it is somewhat harder to shoehorn in other people in shitty situations in an already terrible comic. I just need to make it clear that rape is not a male-only occurrence and I get a little bristly when it is pointed at as if it was.

There isn't much Annie could have done in this situation, I agree. Except decide it was really unsafe to be alone with a stranger - which to me is basic safety. If I was her, I would have talked to said guy inside. Or maybe call Wendy or Kora or someone and then have the conversation. I'm sort of paranoid though. I may be invincible, but I know when I can't beat someone in a fight.

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October 26th, 2015, 10:18 am

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@GreenKrog: Oh yeah, I'm aware that men are getting raped too. Just recently, I read a depressing article on Cracked about rape in the military; guess what, apparently male US soldiers get raped a lot. And let's of course not forget about the infamous prison rapes. Even those kind of do get some media representation, though, because they're easy to sell as "those guys wanted sex and there weren't any women around, so..." I honestly have no idea how much female on male and female on female rape goes forgotten.

The state of men's rights activism is kind of sad, I think. Because of some hateful dickheads rallying behind that banner, simply using those three words in succession makes you look like a misogynistic jerk, and even trying to bring up men's rights in a conversation about gender equality gets you accused of trying to "derail the conversation" which is hilarious. One cannot derail a conversation, because the derailing is a natural part of conversation. A conversation without derailing is not a conversation, it's a monologue, and just like in movies the poor guy you're making listen to your monologue isn't really paying attention because he's planning his escape the whole time.

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