Door Sock

posted November 11th, 2015, 2:01 am


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November 11th, 2015, 7:22 am

bee (Guest)

Self-hate

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That's some awful self-abusive logic here. "I'll let him violate me to punish myself for letting him almost violate hi--her" (misgendering mental stutter feels adequate for the character)...

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November 11th, 2015, 5:41 pm

GreenKrog

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@bee: Sometimes a person can't cope with their mental pain and feel that only a physical punishment could compensate for their actions.

I would normally agree that the mental stutter would be appropriate for Cindi, who is clearly not cool with the trans situation. But right now, after what just happened to both Cindi and Annie, I can surmise that Cindi is thinking in more absolute terms. Lance attacked a girl. So Cindi needed to respond by being 'attacked' by a man.

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November 12th, 2015, 1:42 am

Yan Mouson

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@GreenKrog: I'll never understand that kind of thinking. Makes no sense to me. Not matter how much Cindi punishes herself, it does nothing to change the fact that Annie nearly got raped as a result of her actions. Plus, Cindi must have a poor opinion of Annie if she thinks that will make her happy.

In this scenario, I think the best thing Cindi could have done would be to apologize and then stay far away from Annie.

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November 13th, 2015, 1:41 am

Jax Rhapsody (Guest)

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@Yan

When you go down the rabbit hole, the weird, and creepy, is simple everyday life. It takes a bit of crazy to get it, but it has nothing to do with making it as if she was never almost raped, it is an eye for an eye self-inflicted punishment,because it's her fault. I have a friend that cuts herself for that very reason. You must feel the pain that you caused, and it's not about making yourself feel better, it's shared suffering, that seems incredulous from a sane standpoint, you could possibly see it as setting things right, which seems reasonable, depending on how "setting it right," is taken, and putting herself in a percieved deserved situation is the stance.

Aside from the wonderland reference(if you had never read about the meaning of the story); I can only think of another; Futurama: the episode where Bender gets that empathy chip, excluding the fact it was against his will, as the results are the focus.

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November 13th, 2015, 1:43 am

GreenKrog

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@Jax Rhapsody: Thank you.

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November 13th, 2015, 2:39 pm

Yan Mouson

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@Jax Rhapsody: And yet look at Annie's face. Do you honestly think that helped in any way? Do you think that made it better? Cindi almost got Annie raped and murdered and felt horrible about it. Annie told her to go kill herself and feels horrible about it. Now she sees what Cindi's done to herself and I think it just makes her feel even worse for not immediately forgiving her. She probably feels like she did this to Cindi. In the end, answering suffering by causing more suffering, even to yourself, only perpetuates the cycle. At some point, someone has to stop punishing and start forgiving.

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November 15th, 2015, 12:06 pm

Jax Rhapsody (Guest)

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@Yan Mouson:
I agree with you, it's just cindi, and people like that, don't have that thinking process, it feels like the right thing to do. Gotta be crazy to get it.

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November 15th, 2015, 11:52 pm

Yan Mouson

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@Jax Rhapsody: Yeah, I guess I don't because I'm the opposite of crazy: I'm rational to a fault. I analyze everything through logic, but often fail to see the emotional side of things.

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