Delving

posted December 25th, 2015, 2:01 am


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February 17th, 2015, 4:13 pm

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So.. how about them totally unexpected triggers?

Going through your history can be hell. Facing the stuff you have buried away and thought you would never have to deal with again?

Unfortunately, this entire chapter is about the chains that we can hide, but not undo without seeing them. Perhaps some people can go through their entire lives without needing to face those chains, only sometimes getting snagged on things but easily moving on. I've been to enough shrinks to know that isn't how to actually deal with it.

...Marry arbitrary calendar date. We get into why religion needs to die later in this chapter. Hopefully today you are at least spending it with your family and friends.

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December 25th, 2015, 10:22 am

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I always kinda enjoy remembering another one of the 'signs' I never noticed. Makes me feel a bit less insecure about whether or not I really am a real Trans person and not just an attention seeking snowflake...

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December 25th, 2015, 8:44 pm

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@Dew: I'm wrestling with worrying that I'm just an attention seeking snowflake too, or that people will see me like that whether I am or not.

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December 25th, 2015, 11:03 am

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" ..Merry arbitrary calendar date.
Hopefully today you are at least spending it with your family and friends."

* Thank you for the thoughtful wish, AK. Although I am a Spiritual Person, but like the Puritans in this regard, I do not celebrate Xmas. And since I live alone, and almost everything is closed, it's just me and the Internet today, just me and Wildflowers.

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December 25th, 2015, 8:42 pm

Griz (Guest)

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Merry arbitrary calendar day to you too. May the beneficent cookie spirits smile upon you.

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December 25th, 2015, 10:52 pm

Stephanie (Guest)

Ramen!

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May you be touched by His noodley appendage on this random calendar day!

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December 29th, 2015, 6:25 am

Jax Rhapsody (Guest)

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Belated blessed Yule.

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June 9th, 2017, 4:11 pm

sunspark

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@greengrog: One of the things that occurs when bingeing an 1200+ page webcomic that spans several years is that you end up being at times more keenly in tune with its history than its author. Current example: Jerry.

I can't find the pages (1200+ not always indicative titles to search through), but SOMEWHERE in there is one in which Annie's dad tells Deb flatly that she is NOT to send her to that therapist anymore. There is also a (lovely) one in which he fills her in on some of his own memories of her childhood, showing he knew she was transgender long before she did because of things he had observed over the years. She was very moved.

Not to mention the fact that what we see of her life as "Tony" suggests that her proclamation of having been "normal" until she moved for 10th grade is clearly an outright falsehood: the angst and pain of her character is already present at the start of the comic.

These current pages appear to contradict the earlier ones...

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June 9th, 2017, 5:46 pm

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@sunspark: I chose to respond to your later comments before this one, but I assure you, I know my own canon and there is no contradiction.

Gerald did very much tell Deb that there was to be no more therapist. She kept doing it anyways.

There was indeed pages where Gerald said that he knew Annie was trans before Annie knew it. They were eating ice cream at the time. I cannot recall the page number. You may also recall that he said he couldn't push it and SHE was fighting it at the time and had been up until she killed herself.

Her rejection of being 'not normal' is that she is remembering those events in the haze of her own anger and prejudices.

You keep forgetting that this is being told from Annie's perspective, not from objective perspective. I try to hammer that home in scenes where she is looking herself in the mirror, what she sees is never what is actually there.

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June 9th, 2017, 6:03 pm

sunspark

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@GreenKrog: OK. In conjunction with your other answers, this makes sense. But in fairness to me, you have on many occasions said in comments that you don't recall whether a thing happened or not or how it happened. (One of the things that takes me so long getting through Wildflowers is that I feel compelled to read the discussions as well as the comic itself, as they are often fascinating and informative.) So when I saw this discontinuity I thought it was an example of something like that. :-)

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