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posted April 12th, 2016, 2:01 am


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July 3rd, 2015, 1:34 pm

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I won't lie, I had to look up 'deep in the closet' jokes to find one I hadn't heard before.

Is what Cindi just did wrong? Yes. Was it done with malice? No. Does that excuse it? No. But she is panicking right now pretty hard. Cindi faced this problem when she kissed Zora last year, and it never really left her. So what if this one never leaves either?

Or.. worse.. what is what Cindi just said is what she truly thinks? That to her, Annie is a boy, just a pretty one?

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April 12th, 2016, 4:21 pm

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Panels 5 & 6---" Outing " and sacrificing a transgender person's mental, emotional, and social standing to save face and save yourself from your own awkward social situation ? Your own concrete self-worth must be so much higher than Annie's perceived self-worth. Right Cindi ? How low can you go, Cindi ?

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April 12th, 2016, 6:54 pm

Yan Mouson

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@CuteDress&TwinPonytails: "How low can you go, Cindi?"
Well, she did set a rapist loose on Annie. Just sayin'.

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April 12th, 2016, 11:37 pm

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@Yan Mouson: Cindi was mad at the time, but didn't know that it would go violent. Given how she reacted when she found out about what had happened, I would conjecture that she wouldn't have deliberately put Annie in that situation.

Likewise, I am guessing that Cindi thought the situation was under much more control with Zora than it turns out to be. After all, nobody would believe Zora if they haven't already, right? Throwing Annie under the bus here was, in her mind, essentially harmless.

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April 12th, 2016, 11:43 pm

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@CuteDress&TwinPonytails: We don't know the extent of Cindi's self-doubt and living situation. What if her parents were to find out she was lesbian, and kick her out of the house? Or cause physical damage?

It is important to remember that we don't know the full story. People rarely know the whole story, even if they think they do. So judging Cindi out of hand is no different than judging anyone else trying to live through a bad situation. We identify with Annie because we spend more time with her - my ex girlfriend would vastly more identify with Cindi, knowing how society can react to being gay.

What we see as low, is probably just one tiny step above survival.

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April 13th, 2016, 12:11 am

Yan Mouson

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@GreenKrog: It's one thing to identify with someone, but there is no denying that, objectively, Cindi is 100% in the wrong here. She initiated the kiss, did so without asking Annie for permission and while she was blackout drunk, and when found out, immediately outed her in what may be the flimsiest "I'm not gay" defense I have ever seen.

Every single part of that is astoundingly shitty. In the end, we are what we do. If morality is determined by the impact your actions have on others, it doesn't really matter what your motivations are. Having issues can explain your actions, but it doesn't justify them. If, when push comes to shove, you consistently choose to do bad things, you're probably a bad person.

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May 1st, 2016, 12:18 pm

mittfh

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Don't forget that while what several of the characters here are getting up to is morally questionable at best, reprehensible at worst, they are teenagers - who are hardly the most rational beings in the known universe...

There will likely be consequences to various actions that take place over the evening, but hopefully they will help (eventually!) start clearing up misunderstandings and maybe even bind the group together...

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