Tandem Timeline

posted September 21st, 2018, 2:01 am


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January 28th, 2018, 10:10 pm

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I'm sure everyone wants to know what happens on Monday's post, but I would rather talk about today's because it is more important in every way.

For the last two years of posting (seriously, I average 5-6 pages for every 1 of Annies days), Bree has been in Annie's life. Bree has never lied, because she hasn't had to. She has told Annie to run, but Annie didn't.
Bree knows full well what she is. On the outside, she is beautiful. On the inside, she is a monster. The opposite of Annie. Bree is a sociopath. She hurts people, and she knows she does.
This doesn't excuse anything Bree has done, but it is very important to know that people will hurt you, and it is not always because they are bad people. It might simply be because of how they were programmed. A sociopath is just what they are. You cannot fix it or alter it. Society overall had tried, it just doesn't happen. Which is sad, because it means people like Bree can have a spark of humanity, and never be able to reach it.
I spent the past two years trying to make Bree a better person. Until I realized that, this isn't how it works. She can't have a change of heart because she CAN'T have a change of heart.
You can hate her. Maybe you should hate her. Is that fair? Fuck no. It is fair that we are trans and unfixable? Fuck no. People hate us for what we are. We hate Bree for what she is. It isn't fair to anyone that unfair shit just happens.
There have been a lot of TV shows and movies about causal mental health relationships regarding upbringing. I know my upbringing had an impact on me. I would say my mental health conditions were of bigger importance though. Does that mean that the bully at school is just being abused at home? Not necessarily. Does it mean you can reach them? Not necessarily. But it means that they probably aren't being a jerk just to be a jerk.

I've been sociopathic in my past too. I work very hard not to be. Mine is not because of whatever is driving Bree. It is because I fail to feel emotions how other people do. It is all very complicated. And the end result in the same - what is happening in Annie's life.

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September 21st, 2018, 10:36 am

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Yeah, makes sense, I also want my girlfriend to be raped, 'so be it'. Wtf.

I don't think it's fair to compare sociopathy with being trans. Being trans doesn't reach for hurting other people, sociopathy quite does. So in my opinion, a sociopath has the obligation towards society, to try to learn when they behave antisocial and hurtful towards others, and avoid it.
But still, there is this maybe unsolvable dilemma with people who want to be this way, like 'what to do with Alex DeLarge'.

'And the end result is the same - what is happening in Annie's life.' - But on which side?

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September 21st, 2018, 11:10 am

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@Rockwarbler: On the side of causing pain.

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September 21st, 2018, 4:40 pm

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@GreenKrog: That explains quite some things, I guess ... What do you think of my concept of obligation towards society to not be hurtful? Is it doable? I can't put myself in that position because I am the contrary of a sociopath, which does mean I need a 'reality check' on this one. (Which also doesn't mean that I never behave hurtful. That's part of life and learning.)

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September 21st, 2018, 5:02 pm

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@Rockwarbler: There isn't much to say. I'm not all that complicated - I was emotionally and physically neglected, did not understand the concept of happiness, and couldn't comprehend being trans. Everyone hurt me, so I hurt everyone else - at least then I could connect.

Till I learned that it couldn't work that way, and now I have to live with all the things I've done. Makes for a good bipolar.

Not saying that Bree's behavior can be unlearned, and she can be made better. Some can, some can't. My brother, similar situation, and he has very little comprehension of emotion. His life got much better, but he can't connect to people. He just does what is right because he has learned through others what society counts as right.

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September 22nd, 2018, 10:39 am

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Rather than focusing on the surface-level content of this page, I’m just going to look over the last few pages and say... What’s up with Bree’s eyes? They’re going dark occasionally. If I’m to read into that as important to her facial expression, combined with body language, the only interpretations I can think of that make sense are that she’s either fighting with herself about doing this, which doesn’t really fit with the message about Bree’s inability to change, or struggling not to laugh, which just doesn’t fit any of the prior characterization of Bree at all. So I’m mostly just confused. Is there artistic intent to the shadow effect on Bree’s eyes and its timing?

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September 22nd, 2018, 11:29 am

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@mj6373: They have gone dark three times, though she has turned her head to darkness several more times. This was to feign hurt. On the page "recording" she was doing this to show how Annie was all Bree had left after Cindi and Zora left, to trick Annie in to recording the message. On the Audio File page, she turns to darkness to "look at" the dead, but she looks up instead of down like Annie does. This is an indication of control over the dark, instead of descent in to it. That her eyes are half-covered also show that she is somewhat in her own mind with the thought, instead of simply staring as Annie is each time. the on Tandem Timeline (this page) her eyes turn dark while staring at the light in an act of sheer sinister nature. She is looking at the light, but can't look at the person who should be her light. She looks up at the light, but only has darkness in her eyes.

In previous pages, yes, it was an attempt to show her fighting her own nature. Go back through the pages of this year and you can see times when she is actively trying to be better than she knows she will eventually be. This is not necessarily because she is trying, but because the author is trying to make her try. I honestly didn't know where Bree would end up with all of this. You say it goes against Bree's character to change, but that would be wrong - we can all change. Even those who seem to seek evil and pain can and do change, or have moments when they know how wrong it is what they are doing. Same with those who are good - look what Julie did after years of being supportive.

Also, I'm not particularly good at visual storytelling so I am doing the best I can. Sorry.
*was.

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September 22nd, 2018, 11:35 am

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Oh, no, I wasn’t trying to say it would be against Bree’s character to change; the intention of that line was 1) Bree is not the “evil laugh” type, and 2) while she has the ability to do so, your page blurb and the current story direction show she *hasn’t*, which means a reading that she’s dealing with internal conflict about her actions was probably incorrect.

Anyway, thank you for clarifying! This has all been very enlightening.

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September 22nd, 2018, 12:03 pm

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@mj6373: In this case, you are wrong about 1. If you listened to some of the things she said off-screen when Annie wasn't supposed to hear it, you would see that Bree has taken a certain amount of delight in the overall jerking-around that she has done. It has been fleeting, because she has been hiding things relatively well, except when she wanted to dangle in front of Annie to make her esteem go down.
It might have been too subtle. I've spent a lot more time with her than you have. Well, I hope I have anyways. Everything that has happened with every character has been put in there since the beginning. Only took several years per person for the payoff though - like the cheerleader skirt. The one cheer captain knew, but didn't do anything for a very long time. Bree saw Annie trying to be nice, and thought maybe she could change, but then kept sliding back.

Which is metaphorical to trans people, by the way.

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September 22nd, 2018, 12:12 pm

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As an incidental side note, this blonde guy who keeps getting pointed at girls and raping them on command like some perverse attack dog from hell must be making his parents *real* proud. I wonder if he plays fetch with the bones of orphans, too.

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