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posted October 4th, 2018, 2:01 am


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February 2nd, 2018, 11:42 pm

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Hey, look at me make you second guess your allies and yourselves!
Annie isn't wrong. Just like my dad wasn't when he asked me the same stuff. If you don't seriously question if what you are is morally or socially acceptable, then you haven't really thought much at all. We SHOULD question it so that if we are presented with a counter-argument later, we will not have our narratives crumble. You must be able to unify your thoughts against opposition instead of shutting them out. Annie is FINALLY learning that. Having blind support is useless. Having support that questions AND supports is balance. The cheer mom and this cheer clone are great allies. But they have been only supportive, never truly making sure Annie is ok. Ron, Mitch, Lexi, Dr Bernt, Annie's dad, Cindi, they have all questioned Annie. They made her think about it and come to her own conclusions. That is what make us stronger. Not blocking conversation.

Also, fuck SJWs for blocking conversation. If I make a mistake, I *must* be told I am wrong, in long form, so I won't make the mistake again. You are the same as racists from the 30s who hated black people because you wouldn't just TALK to a black person. I am willing to talk to anyone. Open your fucking brains.

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October 4th, 2018, 10:02 am

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Hrm. I guess this is reasonable, but it’s also really context-dependent. From my perspective growing up, having “pure vile” on the opposing side and only “supportive but with intrusive questions/doubts” on my side didn’t make me “balanced” or “stronger,” it left me completely devoid of anyone I could rely on when I was too young and too broken to figure out how to rely on myself. If this were Annie’s revelation earlier in the year, before Harper’s self-destructive idiocy caused most everyone to turn on Annie and she was beaten nearly to death over the course of multiple days, then sure, I could certainly agree that constant unflinching support can’t be one’s only feedback into their life and that they need some deep questioning to keep them grounded and improving. But when your life is on the line on a day to day basis, the part that’s going to save you is when they’re blocking the punches and convincing you that you absolutely don’t deserve to die, not picking at you over infractions that are comparatively quite minor to either the evil you’re opposing or the good you’re trying to do and spinning that into “well I guess we could entertain the argument that you deserve it.”

That’s my two cents, anyway.

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October 4th, 2018, 2:10 pm

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@mj6373: I look at it this way;
I am a tank.
I have dents in me.
I am still a fucken' tank.

If all you hear, over and over, is "you are perfect and dont have dents", then you cant get over the fact that you have dents. Everyone has dents. If you know about them, then you can fix them. You can slap on a chunk of steel to cover the bullet holes in the sides. If you dont know the hole is there, you can't put a chunk of steel over it.

Trans people have a mental or physical problem. By saying we dont means that we literally cannot get medical coverage from healthcare companies. Like my anti-depression medication to fix my lack of seretonin, I also need my hormone replacement to resolve a physical lack of estrogen. If I am not told and verified that I have an issue, then I cannot fix said issue.

Black humour is the acceptance that bad shit happens, and will happen to us, and we can still laugh at it. We can still laugh at depression being shitty, and experience it - and make it more acceptable because of it. There are ways to do it properly. I have been trying to do that. Look at how Annie and Lexi talk to each other about their problems - through joking.
"You cant get any because you have man-meat"
"And you cant get any man-meat because you don't eat normal meat"
Or something like that. Point is, they talk about it, they joke, they know they have problems, but they are stronger because they accept it. Sometimes, you need help - blind acceptance doesn't tend to give help, it shuts a door by saying there is nothing to help.

Like when I told RMitch about myself. I knew I had a problem. I was scared, I told my best friend. He didnt care, but he knew it was a problem. He asked if I wanted to talk. I said no. He asked if we wanted to play games. We did. That acknowledgement of him seeing a problem and knowing it is a problem, matters.
Imagine what could have been resolved ahead of time if the cheer captain told Annie "I see that this is a thing, you have a thing. Is there anything I need to know to help you in this regard". But no, she just didnt say anything, left Annie paranoid and making excuses, and then ambushing the other cheer captain.

I'm just ranting now I guess. Whatever, I'm just a white person who still has male privilege because I started that way and refuse to be a victim. My friends know I have a problem and stated outright they would defend me to the death if some bigot came against me - they wouldn't know to do that if I didn't tell them. Or something. Fuck I'm so tired..

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